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	<title>Comments on: Ed Fallon and Al Gore</title>
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		<title>By: noneed4thneed</title>
		<link>http://iowaprogress.com/2008/01/30/ed-fallon-and-al-gore/#comment-24464</link>
		<author>noneed4thneed</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 05:42:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://iowaprogress.com/2008/01/30/ed-fallon-and-al-gore/#comment-24464</guid>
					<description>The question isn't what the person supported that Ed Fallon supported in one election 8 years ago.  The question is what does Leonard Boswell support everyday in Congress and how those views differ with those of the Democratic Party and of Democrats in his district.  Boswell voted for the war in Iraq and continued to support it until recently.  He voted for NCLB.  He continually votes in favor of Free Trade agreements that hurt workers in his district.

 What is important is that on these key issues Fallon will vote the right way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The question isn&#8217;t what the person supported that Ed Fallon supported in one election 8 years ago.  The question is what does Leonard Boswell support everyday in Congress and how those views differ with those of the Democratic Party and of Democrats in his district.  Boswell voted for the war in Iraq and continued to support it until recently.  He voted for NCLB.  He continually votes in favor of Free Trade agreements that hurt workers in his district.</p>
<p> What is important is that on these key issues Fallon will vote the right way.</p>
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		<title>By: KL Snow</title>
		<link>http://iowaprogress.com/2008/01/30/ed-fallon-and-al-gore/#comment-24467</link>
		<author>KL Snow</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 14:10:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://iowaprogress.com/2008/01/30/ed-fallon-and-al-gore/#comment-24467</guid>
					<description>Fallon has called his endorsement of Nader in 2000 a mistake time and time again. He's apologized for it He encouraged Nader not to run in 2004. He held a public flogging. What more do you want from him?

As for refusing to sign a loyalty pledge in 2002, I'm completely behind that. Being a good Democrat is more than just having a D behind your name and Fallon recognizes it. 

Furthermore, we're less than a month into this campaign and Boswell has completely bypassed any opportunity to be positive, so he can smear Fallon. If he doesn't have a single positive thing to say about himself, why should we have anything positive to say about him?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fallon has called his endorsement of Nader in 2000 a mistake time and time again. He&#8217;s apologized for it He encouraged Nader not to run in 2004. He held a public flogging. What more do you want from him?</p>
<p>As for refusing to sign a loyalty pledge in 2002, I&#8217;m completely behind that. Being a good Democrat is more than just having a D behind your name and Fallon recognizes it. </p>
<p>Furthermore, we&#8217;re less than a month into this campaign and Boswell has completely bypassed any opportunity to be positive, so he can smear Fallon. If he doesn&#8217;t have a single positive thing to say about himself, why should we have anything positive to say about him?</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Langgin</title>
		<link>http://iowaprogress.com/2008/01/30/ed-fallon-and-al-gore/#comment-24475</link>
		<author>Mark Langgin</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 12:43:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://iowaprogress.com/2008/01/30/ed-fallon-and-al-gore/#comment-24475</guid>
					<description>Kyle,

I'll ask you one question - what would Ed Fallon do for down-ballot Democrats in the 3rd District?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kyle,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll ask you one question - what would Ed Fallon do for down-ballot Democrats in the 3rd District?</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://iowaprogress.com/2008/01/30/ed-fallon-and-al-gore/#comment-24489</link>
		<author>Dan</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2008 03:30:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://iowaprogress.com/2008/01/30/ed-fallon-and-al-gore/#comment-24489</guid>
					<description>Mark, 

I think Fallon would be good for down-ticket dems. Harkin will be nearly unchallenged. Boswell is completely motivating. Fallon is a candidate that people can get excited to come out to vote for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark, </p>
<p>I think Fallon would be good for down-ticket dems. Harkin will be nearly unchallenged. Boswell is completely motivating. Fallon is a candidate that people can get excited to come out to vote for.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Langgin</title>
		<link>http://iowaprogress.com/2008/01/30/ed-fallon-and-al-gore/#comment-24493</link>
		<author>Mark Langgin</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2008 17:35:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://iowaprogress.com/2008/01/30/ed-fallon-and-al-gore/#comment-24493</guid>
					<description>Dan,

Well, I don't think "turnout" is exactly the question.  The Presidential contest will do the most for turnout.  For example, will Fallon be able to go into a rural swing district and help raise dough for down ballot candidates.  

Also, since Fallon refuses PAC money - will he refuse to cooperate with the coordinated campaign that is at least partially funded by labor and other interest groups?  How is he going to fund a turnout operation?  How can his campaign be coordinated with down ballot races if he won't participate in the coordinated campaign?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan,</p>
<p>Well, I don&#8217;t think &#8220;turnout&#8221; is exactly the question.  The Presidential contest will do the most for turnout.  For example, will Fallon be able to go into a rural swing district and help raise dough for down ballot candidates.  </p>
<p>Also, since Fallon refuses PAC money - will he refuse to cooperate with the coordinated campaign that is at least partially funded by labor and other interest groups?  How is he going to fund a turnout operation?  How can his campaign be coordinated with down ballot races if he won&#8217;t participate in the coordinated campaign?</p>
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		<title>By: desmoinesdem</title>
		<link>http://iowaprogress.com/2008/01/30/ed-fallon-and-al-gore/#comment-24533</link>
		<author>desmoinesdem</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2008 13:19:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://iowaprogress.com/2008/01/30/ed-fallon-and-al-gore/#comment-24533</guid>
					<description>This post is disingenuous. Obviously Fallon and some of my progressive friends did not back Nader in 2000 because of the African-American secession issue or Gore's stand on campaign finance reform.

"Geraldine" is probably old enough to remember this time, but in case not, let me remind you that Gore was the Clinton administration's main point man for getting NAFTA passed. Most famously, he debated Ross Perot on that issue on CNN. Gore was associated with the "Rubinomics" economic policies that many progressives disagreed with. The Clinton administration's embrace of welfare reform also hurt Gore by association.

Nader first ran for president in 1996 and already got about 1 percent of the vote because so many liberals were mad about the way Clinton was governing.

Let me make clear that I voted for Gore in 2000 and encouraged my friends to do so. I agree that Fallon made a mistake, as he has acknowledged many times.

But to cite that mistake as equivalent to Boswell's many betrayals of Democratic values is absurd.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This post is disingenuous. Obviously Fallon and some of my progressive friends did not back Nader in 2000 because of the African-American secession issue or Gore&#8217;s stand on campaign finance reform.</p>
<p>&#8220;Geraldine&#8221; is probably old enough to remember this time, but in case not, let me remind you that Gore was the Clinton administration&#8217;s main point man for getting NAFTA passed. Most famously, he debated Ross Perot on that issue on CNN. Gore was associated with the &#8220;Rubinomics&#8221; economic policies that many progressives disagreed with. The Clinton administration&#8217;s embrace of welfare reform also hurt Gore by association.</p>
<p>Nader first ran for president in 1996 and already got about 1 percent of the vote because so many liberals were mad about the way Clinton was governing.</p>
<p>Let me make clear that I voted for Gore in 2000 and encouraged my friends to do so. I agree that Fallon made a mistake, as he has acknowledged many times.</p>
<p>But to cite that mistake as equivalent to Boswell&#8217;s many betrayals of Democratic values is absurd.</p>
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		<title>By: Geraldine</title>
		<link>http://iowaprogress.com/2008/01/30/ed-fallon-and-al-gore/#comment-24556</link>
		<author>Geraldine</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 22:00:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://iowaprogress.com/2008/01/30/ed-fallon-and-al-gore/#comment-24556</guid>
					<description>DesMoinesDem, Leonard Boswell never worked to defeat the Democratic nominee for the President. Leonard Boswell may be a relatively moderate Democrat in a Republican leaning congressional district but he never betrayed his party or his party's nominee in order to let George Bush become President. 

You may disagree with some of Leonard Boswell's votes, I disagree with some of Leonard Boswell's votes too. But Leonard Boswell never did anything to put George Bush in the White House and has worked to elect Democrats for county, state and federal offices in Iowa for decades. 

I'm not sure how you define Democratic values but if helping put George Bush in the White House isn't a betrayal of Democratic values, I'm not sure what is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DesMoinesDem, Leonard Boswell never worked to defeat the Democratic nominee for the President. Leonard Boswell may be a relatively moderate Democrat in a Republican leaning congressional district but he never betrayed his party or his party&#8217;s nominee in order to let George Bush become President. </p>
<p>You may disagree with some of Leonard Boswell&#8217;s votes, I disagree with some of Leonard Boswell&#8217;s votes too. But Leonard Boswell never did anything to put George Bush in the White House and has worked to elect Democrats for county, state and federal offices in Iowa for decades. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure how you define Democratic values but if helping put George Bush in the White House isn&#8217;t a betrayal of Democratic values, I&#8217;m not sure what is.</p>
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		<title>By: Iowa Progress &#187; Boswell Continues Sponsorship of Progressive Legislation</title>
		<link>http://iowaprogress.com/2008/01/30/ed-fallon-and-al-gore/#comment-24567</link>
		<author>Iowa Progress &#187; Boswell Continues Sponsorship of Progressive Legislation</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 18:29:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://iowaprogress.com/2008/01/30/ed-fallon-and-al-gore/#comment-24567</guid>
					<description>[...] are crowing that it is a sign that Boswell is somehow running scared of Nader-endorsing opponent, Ed Fallon, a look through Boswell&#8217;s legislative record shows that it fits with Boswell&#8217;s history [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] are crowing that it is a sign that Boswell is somehow running scared of Nader-endorsing opponent, Ed Fallon, a look through Boswell&#8217;s legislative record shows that it fits with Boswell&#8217;s history [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Gavin Aronsen</title>
		<link>http://iowaprogress.com/2008/01/30/ed-fallon-and-al-gore/#comment-24608</link>
		<author>Gavin Aronsen</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 07:11:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://iowaprogress.com/2008/01/30/ed-fallon-and-al-gore/#comment-24608</guid>
					<description>Anyone who's read my coverage of this contest knows I have past connections to the Fallon campaign, but even with that bias...

When can we say enough is enough about this Nader business? Fallon's endorsement of Nader in no way helped Gore lose. In fact, Gore won the election; if anyone, blame Bush Co. and the media for giving the election to Bush. Or Nader, if you wish. But did Fallon's endorsement of Nader in Iowa really have any effect on the candidate's performance in Florida?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone who&#8217;s read my coverage of this contest knows I have past connections to the Fallon campaign, but even with that bias&#8230;</p>
<p>When can we say enough is enough about this Nader business? Fallon&#8217;s endorsement of Nader in no way helped Gore lose. In fact, Gore won the election; if anyone, blame Bush Co. and the media for giving the election to Bush. Or Nader, if you wish. But did Fallon&#8217;s endorsement of Nader in Iowa really have any effect on the candidate&#8217;s performance in Florida?</p>
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		<title>By: Geraldine</title>
		<link>http://iowaprogress.com/2008/01/30/ed-fallon-and-al-gore/#comment-24675</link>
		<author>Geraldine</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 04:42:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://iowaprogress.com/2008/01/30/ed-fallon-and-al-gore/#comment-24675</guid>
					<description>Gavin, Gore did multiple events in Iowa the week before the election, including a rally in Waterloo the day before the election. As you well know, Iowa is a swing state and Nader very nearly delivered it to George Bush. Without Ed Fallon actively undermining Al Gore, Gore could have spent more time and his campaign could have spent more money in Florida or New Hampshire or New Mexico rather than in Iowa and other states in the Upper Midwest.

Though this of course touches one of the big contradictions behind Fallon. If Ed Fallon actively stumping the state for Nader made no difference in how Al Gore did in Iowa, then doesn't that make Fallon an ineffectual, fringe candidate supporting non-entity? But if Fallon did make an impact in Al Gore's performance in Iowa that justifies descriptions of him as a major Iowa progressive. However, it also directly implicates him in helping to make George Bush President and keeping the most important American environmentalist since Rachel Carson out of the White House. You can't have it both ways. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gavin, Gore did multiple events in Iowa the week before the election, including a rally in Waterloo the day before the election. As you well know, Iowa is a swing state and Nader very nearly delivered it to George Bush. Without Ed Fallon actively undermining Al Gore, Gore could have spent more time and his campaign could have spent more money in Florida or New Hampshire or New Mexico rather than in Iowa and other states in the Upper Midwest.</p>
<p>Though this of course touches one of the big contradictions behind Fallon. If Ed Fallon actively stumping the state for Nader made no difference in how Al Gore did in Iowa, then doesn&#8217;t that make Fallon an ineffectual, fringe candidate supporting non-entity? But if Fallon did make an impact in Al Gore&#8217;s performance in Iowa that justifies descriptions of him as a major Iowa progressive. However, it also directly implicates him in helping to make George Bush President and keeping the most important American environmentalist since Rachel Carson out of the White House. You can&#8217;t have it both ways.</p>
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		<title>By: Gavin Aronsen</title>
		<link>http://iowaprogress.com/2008/01/30/ed-fallon-and-al-gore/#comment-24683</link>
		<author>Gavin Aronsen</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 09:00:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://iowaprogress.com/2008/01/30/ed-fallon-and-al-gore/#comment-24683</guid>
					<description>Isn't it at least a bit disingenuous to suggest that "Nader nearly delivered [the state] to George Bush"? A lot of Nader supporters probably chose him over Gore for much the same reason Fallon did (many, like Fallon claims personally, probably felt bad about it afterwards; others, no doubt, did not).

You have to look at Fallon's path from "fringe candidate supporting non-entity" to his current position in the Iowa Democratic Party. Nader probably said it well on Anderson Cooper 360 yesterday: “I’m a fighter for justice, Anderson. When there’s perennial injustice, you have got to keep going after it, whether inside the electoral arena, or getting progressive forces inside the Democratic Party to take over and replace the corporate Democrats.”

I blogged in detail about my take on the idea that Nader cost Gore the election here, if you're interested (and hope you are, it's interesting to read opposing progressive views on all this):
http://amesprogressive.org/2008/02/26/blogs/gavin/the-nader-haters-come-out-to-play/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t it at least a bit disingenuous to suggest that &#8220;Nader nearly delivered [the state] to George Bush&#8221;? A lot of Nader supporters probably chose him over Gore for much the same reason Fallon did (many, like Fallon claims personally, probably felt bad about it afterwards; others, no doubt, did not).</p>
<p>You have to look at Fallon&#8217;s path from &#8220;fringe candidate supporting non-entity&#8221; to his current position in the Iowa Democratic Party. Nader probably said it well on Anderson Cooper 360 yesterday: “I’m a fighter for justice, Anderson. When there’s perennial injustice, you have got to keep going after it, whether inside the electoral arena, or getting progressive forces inside the Democratic Party to take over and replace the corporate Democrats.”</p>
<p>I blogged in detail about my take on the idea that Nader cost Gore the election here, if you&#8217;re interested (and hope you are, it&#8217;s interesting to read opposing progressive views on all this):<br />
<a href="http://amesprogressive.org/2008/02/26/blogs/gavin/the-nader-haters-come-out-to-play/" rel="nofollow">http://amesprogressive.org/2008/02/26/blogs/gavin/the-nader-haters-come-out-to-play/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
		<link>http://iowaprogress.com/2008/01/30/ed-fallon-and-al-gore/#comment-24824</link>
		<author>Adam</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 02:33:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://iowaprogress.com/2008/01/30/ed-fallon-and-al-gore/#comment-24824</guid>
					<description>Quick Fallon link, check this out and vote for Fallon!

http://www.equalitygiving.org/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quick Fallon link, check this out and vote for Fallon!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.equalitygiving.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.equalitygiving.org/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Iowa Progress &#187; Fallon Can&#8217;t Take What He Dishes Out</title>
		<link>http://iowaprogress.com/2008/01/30/ed-fallon-and-al-gore/#comment-25160</link>
		<author>Iowa Progress &#187; Fallon Can&#8217;t Take What He Dishes Out</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 01:39:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://iowaprogress.com/2008/01/30/ed-fallon-and-al-gore/#comment-25160</guid>
					<description>[...] Fallon attacked a mailing by Leonard Boswell today that criticized Fallon for his support of Ralph Nader as &#8220;very cynical [and] very deceptive&#8221; today. While Iowa Progress has previously [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Fallon attacked a mailing by Leonard Boswell today that criticized Fallon for his support of Ralph Nader as &#8220;very cynical [and] very deceptive&#8221; today. While Iowa Progress has previously [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Iowa Progress &#187; Ed Fallon Displays Agricultural Expertise</title>
		<link>http://iowaprogress.com/2008/01/30/ed-fallon-and-al-gore/#comment-25216</link>
		<author>Iowa Progress &#187; Ed Fallon Displays Agricultural Expertise</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 22:46:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://iowaprogress.com/2008/01/30/ed-fallon-and-al-gore/#comment-25216</guid>
					<description>[...] primary voters in the 3rd District shouldn&#8217;t support Fallon either. Fallon notoriously betrayed the Democratic Party and stabbed Gore in the back and is now facing the consequences of his [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] primary voters in the 3rd District shouldn&#8217;t support Fallon either. Fallon notoriously betrayed the Democratic Party and stabbed Gore in the back and is now facing the consequences of his [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Iowa Progress &#187; &#8220;Sex Ed&#8221; Fallon</title>
		<link>http://iowaprogress.com/2008/01/30/ed-fallon-and-al-gore/#comment-25515</link>
		<author>Iowa Progress &#187; &#8220;Sex Ed&#8221; Fallon</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 14:26:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://iowaprogress.com/2008/01/30/ed-fallon-and-al-gore/#comment-25515</guid>
					<description>[...] Ed Fallon has been painted as unelectable for a variety of reasons, including his support for Ralph Nader in 2000, what really makes him vulnerable is his repeated votes to protect sex offenders versus the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Ed Fallon has been painted as unelectable for a variety of reasons, including his support for Ralph Nader in 2000, what really makes him vulnerable is his repeated votes to protect sex offenders versus the [&#8230;]</p>
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