Mike Blouin Chat (Recap)

April 23rd, 2006 at 11:05pm Chase Martyn

Blouin Visits Grinnell

Tonight at 7, Mike Blouin sat down to chat with Grinnell students for about an hour in the Loose dorm lounge. It had a smaller attendance than yesterday’s Fallon event, but that made for a more personal atmosphere. We formed a circle in Loose lounge’s mismatched, anachronistic armchairs and spoke pretty candidly about politics and college antics. (Thankfully, Hannah and I got to Loose early enough to tuck away the empty 30 racks of Natty Light before Mike arrived…) Read more after the jump.

Blouin was the candidate you’d least suspect would command the interest of an audience of college kids. Of the three candidates, he’s the oldest, and he has been cast — perhaps undeservedly — as an “establishment candidate”; so that’s not quite Grinnell material.

But Blouin engaged us. His demeanor was something between professorial and “quirky uncle,” and it worked. I know my opinion of him changed because of the event. Here are some interesting morsels:

Blouin began his speech with a very strong position in favor of a clean elections law. His language was surprisingly firm and insistent. Money, he said, was his biggest complaint about what has changed in Iowa since he got involved in politics.

He also gave us a brief biography. He went to Loras (at age 16), decided to settle in Iowa, got married, became a teacher (as did his wife), got elected to the legislature and was fired for it, had a child with his wife who had been fired for getting pregnant, had to live on a legislator’s salary alone, and worked his way up to being in charge of economic growth (and job creation) in Iowa. He resigned from his job working for Vilsack to run for governor, and he did it early so that there wouldn’t be any question of his objectivity.

Blouin also talked about his plan for government-sponsored health insurance. No one asked him to clarify, but it sounded a lot like Kerry’s plan (something short of “universal,” but still “universally accessible”). Andy McGuire has been the point-person on this, and she has served both with doctors (as a medical expert and researcher) and insurance companies, so she really knows the health insurance system, etc.

The second half is critical of Nussle:

He criticizes Nussle’s oversight of our deficit, but he drives it home by relating it to government services (education and health care).

Q&A:

On giving companies tax breaks to draw them to Iowa:

“I’d be a hypocrite if I said we should never do it. In the ideal, I wouldn’t do it ever. In the ideal world, you wouldn’t have to. In the ideal world, states wouldn’t be giving away their tax breaks in competition with each other… The trouble is we live in a very real world… And until the courts — I say the courts because Congress will never do this — find a way to stop it, we’ve gotta compete…we’ll lose the opportunity to keep our young people.”

He then talks about how our education is great, but people come here for education and then leave, and that’s something he wants to discourage.

He then talks about how the jobs he brought to Iowa had a lot of benefits. The tax breaks he gave businesses came with a lot of requirements, including pay that was above average per capita income in the state, guarantees that they’d stay, etc. In the cases when we didn’t keep businesses here, it was because other states (e.g., South Carolina) gave away unreasonably huge rewards to companies. So Blouin is in favor of tax breaks with guarantees like that.

Eric asked about Iowa’s food deficit (we import 85% of our food):

Blouin deconstructs the statistic and said that it involved seasons, etc. He also said that promoting organic farming (which is mostly for human consumption) will improve that situation.

On my question about abortion:

He states his position (here on his web site) pretty persuasively. I usually get annoyed by the “I’m pro-life personally but not politically” politicians but Blouin wasn’t annoying. He gives concrete examples of the (strategically) liberal programs he’d support to reduce abortions while still honoring his promise to maintain the right to choose. And, finally, he deflects potential criticism for his 1970s votes for a ban on abortion by explaining, “Now it’s taken me years to get to [this] point, but I’m comfortable.”

So then I asked if he’d support laws like the requirements that abortion clinics provide information to pregnant women about the pain their fetus will feel or about adoption services, and he said, unequivocally, that he will not sign any bill that would affect abortion on either side of the issue. He claims, to explain why his pro-life position is actually more effective than Nussle’s, “Republicans want an issue. I want a solution.”

On Alec’s question about the “WalMart laws”:

He likes them, but he needs a democratic legislature.

“I think there’s something seriously wrong with a corporate mindset that hires people at low wages, condemns government giveaways, and calls their employees together to explain how they, as employees of WalMart, can go get Medicaid services. Yeah, it oughta be illegal.”

And he says Eric Palmer is a great candidate who could help change the balance in the legislature.

On Alec’s question about requiring health insurance by law (like Massachusetts):

“To mandate people to buy something they can’t afford to pay for, in itself doesn’t work. You’ve gotta make sure that you’ve got a product — a basic product — that’s affordable for everyone. I want to see how it works in Massachusetts, and I think we can get a pretty good read in a couple of years.”

He goes on to talk about Andy McGuire’s medical qualifications. And then he gives a pretty detailed account of what improvements he wants to make. And he proposes “bridge health insurance” for recent college graduates if they are looking for jobs in Iowa.

He also talks about how he wants to bring down pharmaceutical costs. He wants transparency in drug pricing, but it’ll take creativity to make it constitutional. He thinks he has a solution (by asking for transparency only for drugs that the state buys directly).

On Hannah’s question on McGuire’s donations to Republicans:

Greg Ganske, who unseated Neal Smith, was also McGuire’s neighbor, which explains her donation.

Jim Nussle was her brother’s neighbor, so she donated to one of his early congressional campaigns. But,

“When he abandoned the value system he said he had, she and [her husband] dropped him. 35% of Iowans are Democrats. You’ve got to get to 51%. You’ve gotta reach out to Independents and progressive Republicans who are scared to death of the Nussle/Vanderplaats ticket, and Andy can do it.”

Then a jab at Ed Fallon (although not mentioned by name):

“You know we’ve got another candidate in this race who publicly endorsed Ralph Nader in the 2000 general election against Al Gore. Helped bring us George Bush. And who, through his organization, endorsed a couple of incumbent Republicans in the legislature. That’s what he did. That was then. This is today. And he’s a very competent guy, and he’s got a right to run. I don’t think you can bash him for it… He probably wished he hadn’t done it back then…”

On Eric’s question on whether Blouin would raise taxes to increase teacher pay:

“I don’t think we have to raise taxes to do it.”

He talks about the need to improve pay for teachers, nurses, and day care providers.

All in all, it was an interesting event. I wish more students had made it out.

Oh! And, on his way out, he made a joke about how blogs can be scary. Boo!

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  • 1. Eric  |  April 24th, 2006 at 3:12 pm

    This is my opinion, but in the primary stages, I don’t think Blouin is the best candidate for Iowans. He lacks the conviction for change that I see in Ed Fallon, and Blouin seems all too-well prepared to work within an establishment whose policies are crippling this country’s ability to care for itself. The amount of money he said he would probably spend in the primary and general election was absolutely heartbreaking, something like ~2 mill for primary and up to 10 mill for the general. Paul Wellstone got outspent 6 to 1 and still won, Fallon has a fraction of his dough and is polling even, so for a guy who says he’s the economic kingpin of Iowa, he sure as hell doesn’t seem to be using his dollars well.

  • 2. Lee  |  April 24th, 2006 at 9:07 pm

    I am comforted by the fact that McGuire blindly supports her (and her brother’s) neighbors. Because, you know, if a politician lives by a member of the family, they must be good! Honestly, is that even an excuse? LAME. And to talk about reaching out to republicans in one breath, and criticize Fallon for actually doing it (you know, beyond his neighborhood) is equally lame.

  • 3. nancy  |  April 25th, 2006 at 6:02 pm

    how many of you have actually tried to win an election in iowa? how many of you have actually tried to get something done in the legislature? do you understand how ineffective ed fallon has been at moving the ball down the court for us liberal progressives? if you don’t, then maybe you should pay attention. for those of us on the hill, working with ed and other “faux democrats”, as ed seems to call them (80% of his caucus,) we understand how ed doesn’t work. how his ideals and tearing apart of everything anyone tries to do (without working with others to build things up) is completely annoying and ineffective. it’s righteousness that goes nowhere. the reality is that absolutely nothing gets done in iowa without compromise. frustrating, yes, but this is a democracy, not some totalitarian state. money in politics is sad and should be changed, but it works. you probably don’t know this, but it cost nearly half a million for a state senate race in rural BF southern iowa for a democrat to win the last time. without that win, we wouldn’t have a tie in the senate and we’d have anti gay marriage amendments, the death penalty reintroduced, and any other number of wack-job policies out there that republicans want to put on the map. i’m willing to sacrifice a modicum of principle for the sake of the end results, cause i live in this world not above it. an ugly reality, maybe, but some of us are willing to mess with a few ugly realities, cause until the game changes, that’s what it takes. and while you coo over your ideals, don’t choke on your righteous sadness, cause some of us will be fighting the fight out here, going toe to toe with jerks like jim nussle, who will lie and smear and get away with it, cause that’s how people operate.

    when this money starts getting spent, ed fallon will quickly realize how hard it is to just get the message out without money. it’s not being spent on evil things, it’s being spent on dumbed down electorate that doesn’t pay attention but feels the need to vote as if they were informed, an electorate that complains they don’t hear anything when they’re not listening or paying attention.

    do you know blouin? really? except for ed fallon and chet culver’s shallow and incorrect attacks? blouin is a stealth candidate, someone with genuinely liberal progressive heart who is so likeable by republicans who don’t know how truly liberal his record is. this is crunchy catholic social justice liberal.

  • 4. Chase  |  April 25th, 2006 at 8:15 pm

    Nancy, thanks for your comment. I’m happy we’re getting more visits from people actually involved in Des Moines, because I think you guys probably have an interesting and different perspective than we do about this. But to answer your question, many of us have fought pretty hard to get Democrats elected in Iowa. We have been around the block a few times, even if you think we sound idealistic.

    That said, I thought my post on Blouin was generally pretty positive. Did you think I was being unfairly critical of him? Because, at the very least, I think everyone left the room thinking that they wouldn’t mind if Blouin were governor, and that’s not something everyone thought before the event.

    Your comment also helps explain why so many legislators have endorsed Blouin. One would think they’d want to rally behind the front runner, but it sounds like they’re supporting Blouin because they actually feel he’s the right candidate for the job, and that makes it more meaningful.

    So thanks.

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